Live PortionBefore I say anything else, I have to say that I came in late. I haven't heard it all, won't be able to tell you who won. Nobody will actually be able to anyway, but least of all me.
I have to hand it to Palin though, she sounds confident enough and she seems to be taking this debate suprisingly well. I haven't seen her speak before this, and I admit to being impressed. Extra points for using Reagan's line from his Carter debate, that took moxie. The shining city reference felt a little bit canned though. She looks right at the camera every time too, rather than the studio audience. The Wall Street Journal said she might do that, and that she's underrated when it comes to televised debate.
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Biden is much less charismatic (his maleness might have something to do with that), but he's also doing a good job. I don't hate him, even though I hold a grudge against him for his Iraq Partitioning idea. He's playing up his grassroots a little hard, but he is pretty genuine when he talks about family, and I do appreciate that. Even if he has multiple apparent misunderstandings of the VP's Constitutional role.
The only person doing a bad job is whatever churl is handling the damn microphones. Get it together, man.
Palin looks like she has cold coffee-stomach type jitters. It has a very specific sound and body language that she's definitely displaying. Not the same as outright nervousness, but maybe she should cut back on the pre-debate caffeine.
PostmortemPalin seemed to stumble a lot more than Biden, but that stands to reason. She's sort of new to this, and Biden's done all this for a damn long time. She had some pretty nervous giggles and I wish she didn't, and I wish her delivery was cleaner, because Biden really showed her up when it comes to delivery, even if he had some distressing misrepresentations of the Constitution.
I'm actually willing to let that go though, obviously the VP presides over the senate even if there's no tie vote, Biden knows that because he's been in the senate for a damn while now. He knows, even if he failed to communicate.
Palin's "energy independence" ideas ring just a shade hollow though, because there's nobody who's not for that. It's just a matter of timetable and method of pursuit, and frankly I wouldn't drill in ANWR if it were up to me. High gas prices are pushing alternative and efficient energy technologies, and undercutting the prices five to ten years from now means disincentivizing that market shift and slowing the research of those technologies. But, to be fair, in 5-10 years the cost of energy provision could possibly be so high that we could safely drill in ANWR without substantially slowing alternative and efficient energy research. I can see both sides of that, so the rhetoric doesn't go very far from either person without a fairly involved analysis and projection of what the energy market is going to look like in 5-10 years. Which I admit that I don't have. So nevermind, I guess.
There's no winner here, but I'll say the same thing that folks said about the first McCain-Obama speech: Obama didn't lose, and that's a sort of win for a newbie. Palin didn't lose, and that's a sort of win.
Here's the thing. Palin came across as a little bit generic as a conservative the same way Obama comes across (at least to me) as a generic liberal. Tossing out Reagan might get her in with a certain demographic of voters on the right, but it may not be the best thing to grab the centrists. The same goes for Obama and his constant Kennedy references.
Then again, grabbing the center was never the point of Palin's candidacy. McCain can do that well enough on his own, and early on he polled badly with the mainline conservatives for being a RINO. Palin is supposed to round those votes up by being the conservative.
America has it easy this year. No matter what happens, we either break the color barrier or the gender barrier, both desirable things. Everyone gets to be a progressive, which is part of the genius of Palin's candidacy: it defuses some of that Angry Left rhetoric against what they see as the racist, androcentric Conservative class. Ted Rall must be furious.
My only advice to the McCain campaign: let Palin out of the box more. She did just fine, cut her some slack and let her get comfortable with talking policy. Remember all that "Obama's just empty rhetoric" stuff that went around? The same stuff is going around about Palin, and so far rightfully so. Fix that. A VP without policy abilities is not an asset to your campaign.
And my advice to the Obama campaign: Put Biden back in the box. Palin, with coffee-stomach jitters in her only VP debate, held her own against your own big policy gun. Put Biden to work on some policy stuff, because he'll be good at it, and let Obama handle the rhetoric and appearances from here on out. He's much, much better at it, and Palin can't hold the line against him.
Note to both campaigns: the public has completely finished with the rhetoric. Start honestly debating policy and drop the gotchas, or you're going to start fostering public distrust in the election process, and that's going to bring out the Paultards again, with their damn Bill Hicks quotes. Put some substance down, or lose the audience.